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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $1500.

"I have a 1948 willys jeep with a flathed 4 it runs good drives good and looks good. no rust body is strieght.I asking 1500 for it or trade for a small car or pickup for same value."

Sold · 1942 Jeep mb
$16,000
Listed 3 weeks ago in Smoaks, SC

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MB and then some a la CJ-2L

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INFORMATION FROM SELLER:

New tires and wheels motor runs excellent. Title in hand. Quail hunting machine!

Roger Martin spotted both of these jeeps on Facebook.

The first one was describe by Jim Burrill as a British Jeep during Operation Veritable.

The second jeep was posted by Norberto Boddy and was extended in the middle (CJ-2L-like). I tried to hunt down "Crescent Poultry Products", but didn't have any luck. The phone number seems strange, as it include an "L" in it; anyone recognize that phone number construction?

No pics provided. It has a custom cab and a truck bed on it. This might be some type of CJ-2L.

https://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/d/oldtown-1948-willys-jeep/7504412199.html

"1948 Willys Jeep needs some new rocks to crawl on and trees to climb up the side of. Running when it was parked 10 years ago at its present location Original flat 4 full custom cab and a pickup bed installed. Used as an all purpose vehicle on a Christmas tree farm. Low miles for many happy years. $1500 In rough condition"

This morning, I got wondering if the Navy ordered any other vehicles besides CJ-3As.  Well, I found some information across the net on various Navy Jeeps.  I list some different flattie models below, but some CJ-5s and others also spent time with the Navy.

Navy CJ-2A
Over at the CJ-2A page, Bob posted an article from the Toledo Times (8/24/1946) about the Navy ordering 200 Willys Overland Jeeps in 1946 for use along the great lakes and the coasts.  Bob also mentioned the Navy ordered both CJ-3As & DJ-3As.

This G503.com thread has a some images of Navy CJ-2As and examples of tags (an example tag is seen above).

Stretched Navy CJ-2A, the CJ-2E, and the CJ-2L?According to JP Magazine, a rumor persists that WO built an extended CJ-2A for the army in 1948 called the CJ-2E.  However, they feel this is a rumor because there are no records for such a creation.  In addition, experts they asked said the extended CJ-2As often came on a later model frame.  While I have not personally seen any of the extended CJ-2As in person, I have seen enough of them for sale to make me think that they might have produced on a very limited basis.

And speaking of streched CJ-2As,
it looks like someone picked up that pinkish '2A that I had listed from Bonsall, Ca.  He reports that he was a told a dealer (likely somewhere on the west coast) bought some CJ-2As, stretched them, and then called them a CJ-2L. Well, sure enough, the pinkish CJ-2A's registration lists it as a CJ-2L (though not a navy jeep).

Navy CJ-3B Navy
According to the JeepDr. website, they have restored a Navy CJ-3B and have the Navy paperwork to back up the claim.  Now, this might be a M-606 as the site doesn't specifically answer this question.

You can see another example of a Navy CJ-3B at the CJ-3B Page (scroll most of the way to the bottom).

CJ-V35/U for the Navy & USMC
Of course, there is also highly sought after CJ-V35/U made for the Navy & the United States Marine Corp. These were actually CJ-3As modified into CJ-V35/Us

UPDATE: **SOLD** Was No Price. Possible Coast Guard Super Jeep?

That's an interesting, extended WWII body.

"Need a part for your WILLYS JEEP? I have anything and everything (Mechanical [Non-Electrical]) you can think of!
The parts I have are for a Willy's GPW L134!
(1941-1945) are the years the Willy's GWP (GO DEVIL) were manufactured! This is a very light weight and capable 1/2 ton vehicle used in WW2. Because these parts were manufactured from 1941-1945 they are very good quality.
Some parts are quite rusty due to being left outside but most were in a basement located near Seattle, WA and are brand new.... as in fresh out of their boxes!
I have loads of bearings and gears! 5 transmissions, 2 engine blocks, 2 transfer cases, 2 bell housings, 3 cylinder heads, 3 oil pans, 3 fly wheels, 1 crank shaft, 1 camshaft, 1 starter, 2 front axles, 1 rear axle, 6 pistons and so much more!!!!! MESSAGE ME!!!!"

Coast Guard Super-Jeep at the National Guard Militia Museum

Posted at bangshift (though I couldn't find this original link), referenced by Jalopnik, linked to by Kaiser Willys, and forwarded by Colin, here is a great video  of a coast guard "super jeep" in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DVl8S-iHMIE

NEWS ARTICLES:

1) From the May 06, 1944, Perth Mirror in Australia:

TRAVELS 60 MPH OVER SANDY BEACHES
At a Coastguard Station on the Atlantic Coast, U.S. Coast Guards men recently demonstrated a new super-jeep, carrying 10 men and traveling up to 60 miles an hour over sand. Officials said the super-jeep was developed to meet special problems of Coast Guard shore patrols. Chassis of a regulation jeep was halved and steel shafts inserted to add one yard to its wheelbace. Seats for 10 were installed and specially designed wheels employed to permit travel over any kind of beach.

2) Volume 70 of the U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings discusses the results of the Coast Guard Jeep. Unfortunately I don't have access to the whole document. I do have this:

As a basis for comparison, the regular Army jeep tried to follow the super-jeep over the same course, but foundered in the deep sand. The super-jeep was developed in the Coast Guard transportation office to meet the special demand that branch of services has for a vehicle capable of moving through sand . . .

LINKS:
http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=177213 (three good photos of an original coast guard jeep)

Roberto's friend Mr. Paco, has run into some bureaucracy trying title his Jeep.  I will let Roberto explain the details.

Let me introduce you the Willys CJ2A jeep owns by my friend mr. Paco, who lives at Valladolid, Spain. The jeep was found years ago at a farm (barn find!!!) and have belonged to an aristocratic dame, if I´m not wrong.

As you could see in the pics, it has a very curious extended body conversion with short hard-top and that´s the reason to ask your help. We would like to know if this kind of conversion could be done at the States as an extra ordered by the customer, or the institution which imported to Spain. Paco wants to get a tittle for his jeep as an historic vehicle and it seems that here, he needs to claim that this kind conversion was made at the factory. I mean, that this characteristic is "historical". If not, he should modify again it to be a standard CJ2A jeep...Absurd, and illogical, as the guy who has pointed him this doesn´t care about the possibility of a local conversion made at Spain...isn´t would be this "historical" too? Burocracy, absurd and illogical burocracy...

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Roberto67/Willys%20CJ2A%20jeep%20Paco/?albumview=slideshow

I responded to Roberto writing that while I knew a small outfit in California created CJ-2Ls by expanding the middle of some CJ-2As, I was not aware of any aftermarket group nor any Willys option to have the bodies extended in the rear (despite plenty of examples of jeeps that have been extended in the rear).  Does anyone else know anything different?

Here are some examples of jeeps extended at the back.
http://www.ewillys.com/2012/04/28/1950-cj-3a-heber-city-ut-3500/http://www.ewillys.com/2012/04/06/1953-m-38a1-hamilton-mt-5500/http://www.ewillys.com/2012/01/16/year-flattie-phoenix-az-3750/http://www.ewillys.com/2012/01/05/1946-mbgpw-murphys-ca-2500/http://www.ewillys.com/2011/10/22/1945-gpw-ceres-ca-2850/http://www.ewillys.com/2011/04/27/1947-cj-2a-with-extended-rear-ramona-ca-ebay/http://www.ewillys.com/2011/04/05/1946-cj-2a-phoenix-az-3150/http://www.ewillys.com/2011/01/29/1963-dj-picture-rocks-az-2000/http://www.ewillys.com/2010/11/26/army-depot-dj-3a-alexander-city-al-ebay/

UPDATE: Ray reported the following about this jeep:  I spoke to the seller at length, and this was stretched on a military base and used as a tow vehicle.  Its nice, has a lot of extra parts that go with it. Known problems - brakes need gone over, been driving on the farm with no brakes. Motor has a rod knock, sounds like lower engine problem.  Rod, the seller, was very forthcoming and seemed very straight forward about it. They got new farm equipment so he wont be using the jeep on the farm any longer.

This 2A has been lengthened to 88" and the gas tank is in the back. I'd really like to examine the frame. The lack of drain holes and fuel inlet on the driver's side suggests there's been at least some body work to this. As far as I know, there's no documented prototype by Willys-Overland featuring a lengthened 2A, making this most likely some type of custom build. This does not look as stretched as the "CJ-2L"s that we've seen in the past, most (all?) of which were on the west coast.

"UP FOR SALE IS MY 1947 JEEP CJ2, USED AS A FARM WORK VEHICLE FOR THE LAST 17 YRS. NO RUST HOLES , REGULER MAINTENANCE A GENUINE WORK HORSE FUN OFF THE ROAD VERSATILE MACHINE.. THIS CJ2 INSTEAD OF HAVING A 80" WHEELBASE IT HAS A LONG 88" WHEELBASE WHICH GIVES THE JEEP A 4' BED INSTEAD OF THE STANDARD 3' BED. IT CAN CARRY 8 ADULTS. 6 IN THE BACK AND TWO UP FRONT PLUS A KID ON THE METAL PERCH BETWEEN THE SEATS, IT ALSO HAS A REAR MOUNTED GAS TANK WITH A SKID PLATE INSTEAD OF THE STANDARD UNDER THE SEAT TANK..

THIS JEEP COMES WITH $3,000.00 OF EXTRA PARTS AND ACCESSORIES . 2 COMPLETE MOUNTED SETS 5 EACH OF MILITARY LUG TIRES 700x16 AND 600x16.. 4 COMPLETE AXLES AND GEARS..ONE FOR THE FARM USE 5.38 GEAR RATIO AND ONE FOR THE ROAD USE 3.73 RATIO.. A STEEL CAB WITH GLASS AND WIPERS.. 2 WINDSHIELD ASSEMBLIES AND TOW BAR WITH HITCH.. EXTRA SHEET METAL - HOOD, FENDER, GRILL.. MECHANICAL PARTS GALORE INCLUDING HARD TO FIND ORIGINAL PARTS!! COMPLETE MAINTENANCE RECORDS , REPAIR AND PARTS MANUALS INCLUDING OWNERS MANUAL, HEAVY DUTY REAR CARRIER HOLDS 450 LBS. - 235 LBS. FRONT COUNTER WEIGHT REAR OLIVE DRAB CANVAS JUMP SEAT SEATS TWO TO THREE PERSONS, EXTRA SEAT FRAME , METAL BOWS FOR CANVAS TOP.. ASKING $6,500.00"

https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/1947-jeep-willys-cj2-rare-88/6414199800.html

UPDATE: Additional content has been added about Sandifur Motors.

Originally established in 1937, the Sandifur Motor Company out of Spokane, Washington, was operated by Charles and C. Paul Sandifur. Brothers and business partners, by 1938 the two men were involved in taxi cabs, used cars, life Insurance, and other business pursuits in the Spokane region.

The Sandifurs became a Willys distributor in the autumn of 1945 soon after the launch of the CJ-2A. An ad in the October 21, 1945, issue of the Spokesman Review confirms this.

As best as I understand it, being a distributor meant Sandifur Motors could both sell jeeps and signup other dealers.

The company seems to have followed the standard line of advertising, as this 1947 farming ad shows:

As we'll see in a moment, Sandifur was successful at selling jeeps, but I can't imagine CJ-2A was very practical for farming in the Spokane region, in part due to the size of the farms. For example, my maternal grandparents obtained a 160 acre farm 35 miles southeast of Spokane on the small banks of Fighting Creek, Idaho, a place they won in a lottery around 1910, then secured by homesteading. In the 1920s they founded the local Fighting Creek store and operated one of the first phones in the area (we still have some of the books that documented the calls). They also made money logging the local forest and, after WWII, electrifying the area. Had they thought a jeep was practical, I believe they could have afforded to purchase one. Instead, they preferred to use tractors.

My family's decision to abstain from buying a jeep did little to slow the success of Sandifur Motors. It's possible the company was doing better selling wagons and trucks versus CJ-2As. I could imagine four wheel drive versions of the trucks and wagons being very handy navigating the endless forests and deserts of the Inland Empire area. This may also explain why both long-wheel base CJ-2As (likely the CJ-2Ls) and CJ-2As with 6ft extended beds were available for sale from both Spokane and Montana dealers (more on this in an upcoming post).

Here's a 1949 ad promoting the wagon:

Whatever the company was selling, it was selling enough of them to justify new digs. In early 1951, the Willys dealer moved from its original location at W419 3rd Avenue, to W228 2nd Avenue in downtown Spokane:

In June of 1951, Sandifur Motors announced that it had ranked third in sales volume for all dealers nation-wide for 1950. This success may explain the move to the new location.

In the company's role as a distributor, in late 1951 Sandifur Motors inked dealership deals with Thompson Equipment company, out of Moses Lake; Guenther Tractor company, out of Pasco (where I live); and Mert's Motors, out of Republic, Washington. That brought the total number of dealerships in the region to 35 (November 8, 1951, Spokane Chronicle).

When Kaiser purchased Willys assets in 1953, Sandifur Motors re-signed to become a KW dealer and expanded the business' facilities:

By 1956, the C. Paul Sandifur family was wealthy enough that the bulk of his family spent a year in Florence Italy, traveling throughout Southern Europe and the Middle East.

Two years later, the Sandifur's connection with Sandifur Motors ended with the sale of the company to the Portland-based Rancho Rambler, Inc. The Sandifur Brothers chose to pursue the likely more lucrative mortgage industry full-time through their successful Metropolitan Mortage and Securities company, an entity launched in 1953.

The mortgage company would outlast the Sandifur brothers and be handed down to C. Paul Sandifur, Jr. Apparently, the younger Sandifur, a "born rebel", had a colorful history in Spokane. The mortgage company lasted until 2004 when it landed in bankruptcy, to the chagrin of its investors, thanks in part to a 2003 SEC investigation.

You can learn more about C. Paul Sandifur's Senior's thoughts on real estate in his 1991 book, "Just give me real estate: A person history of Metropolitan Mortgage and Securities".  I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised to learn that Sandifur loved real estate, as our place in Pasco sits on land once owned by a Sandifur out of Spokane (which one I don't know) and the main drag near us is called Sandifur Parkway.